A proposal to have a conversation about how we interact with our urban and rural public art spaces using facebook, ecflabs and soundcloud, together with discussions in physical art spaces, the conversation never got going. I wanted to keep the format and responses broad to encourage new thinking and challenge the expected outcomes when visiting a public art space, the proposal was made as an audio speech file deliberately avoiding art text and theory, as some of the people I wanted to involve in the discussions would not have to be art makers or creators. however the institutional response was lukewarm at best. 2017-2018 https://ecflabs.org/lab/rurality https://soundcloud.com/tim-haynes-12